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#31) As well as being a brony, I'm a furry. I find that some bronies alienate me because of that, and many bronies become offended when people assume that they're furries. What the hell? Shouldn't they know what it's like to be out of the mainstream? Is it bad to be a furry? Why can't I be both a furry and a brony?

Answer: The furry fandom has a lot of negative connotations surrounding it. The stereotype of a furry to a non-furry is someone who is attracted to animal-people, which a lot of people are uncomfortable with. When ponies became popular, a lot of people started saying that pony-fans are furries, while many pony-fans became vocal about not being part of the furry fandom just because they like ponies.

Personally, I find this to be exactly why applying abstract labels to things can be damaging. Not everyone wants to be part of a fandom based on their interests; some are fine to be remain without labels and titles, and instead prefer to just appreciate various interests without being tagged and defined by them. The fact of the matter is that bronies are not necessarily furries, and so I can see that some people would get pissed off if they were incorrectly labelled as a furry when they aren't.

However, bronies have their own problems to worry about. While they may not like to be called furries due to the negative stereotypes that surround the furry fandom, bronies instead are seen as: masturbating to ponies; having some sort of a learning difficulty; being homosexuals; being emotionally repressed; being paedophiles and so on. None of these things are correct for many, but that's how ignorant stereotyping works.

Nothing is stopping you from being a furry and a brony. The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive. If bronies give you shit for being a furry, then they'll just make more people dislike them, which isn't a good idea. People can have multiple interests, even if others don't see the appeal. I wouldn't say that the dislike bronies show towards you, however, is anything against being outside of the mainstream: furries have been around for a much longer time than bronies and are more well-known on the whole.

I imagine that it's mainly because some bronies are casual about their interests and fear being associated with furries due to the aforementioned negative opinions that many have about furries. Being falsely labelled as something is a pain in the ass, and thus perhaps bronies are trying to establish a rift between furries and their own fandom in order to prove to the world (or themselves) that bronies and furries are not the same thing. Feel free to continue having both interests, though, and if it brings you comfort to identify yourself under the terms of 'brony' and 'furry', then go for it.



#32) I've always liked crossovers, so my first MLP story, still a WIP, is a crossover between MLP and Star Wars. What do you think of MLP crossovers? Are they a good thing, intrinsically and for bronies? Is there a line that we shouldn't cross here?

Answer: I think that you have the right to write whatever you want to write, as long as you can deal with the backlash of what you have written. If you would enjoy writing a crossover between Star Wars and My Little Pony, then why the hell not? I'm sure that there are enough fans of Star Wars in the brony fandom to get you a decent following, as long as the story is well-written. From my perspective, as long as something is written well, you can get away with most crossovers: if it benefits the story to make it a crossover, then it can be fun to explore those familiar worlds with different characters (in this case, ponies).

Crossovers are a good way to strike a chord with people, as they may be interested already in the thing that you're crossing with ponies, which will naturally build you an audience. As long as people can accept that these stories are highly unlikely to be masterful works of prose, there's fun and enjoyment to be had in it. Generally, I'm cool towards MLP crossovers, as long as they know their place. For example, Fallout Equestria has become a little too grandiose with people attempting to publish it and so on; in that case, the fact that the story is a crossover utterly ruins its chances of being published, as those wishing to publish it would need to get permission from both Hasbro and Bethesda, which is highly unlikely to ever happen.

For the purpose of typical fan-fiction, though, go ahead and do it. I wouldn't say that crossovers are a good thing, but nor are they bad: they're absolutely neutral, and I'm neutral towards them. Having an original story is great, but it's not necessarily a lack of originality that would make you choose the crossover option; it really depends on the story that you have in mind, and how well you can present it. I don't perceive there as being a line that shouldn't be crossed, unless someone crosses ponies with something extremely distasteful. For something as innocent and influential as Star Wars, though, the only limit is your imagination.



#33) I sent in a crossover fanfic chapter to the MLP:FIM group but the person declined it, saying how, 'OMGZ IT IS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITHZ PONYIES!'. I am sure she didn't even read half of it, what should I do?

Answer: MLP:FIM is an enormous group that receives a lot of literature deviations every single day. Naturally, it's difficult to go through that many stories and check to see if they all have ponies in. That's why I'm somewhat surprised to hear that you received a comment telling you that the story has nothing to do with ponies, as that would suggest that they actually read it, even if only partially. However, I assume, as you're sending this question to Brony Advice and taking into consideration that you submitted it to that group in the first place, that the story does have ponies in it, and so I'm not sure why it would have been rejected for that reason.

The fault either rests on you or the person who handled the deviation handling. Either you didn't make it obvious that the story was about ponies in a crossover setting, or they didn't bother checking to see what the content of the story was, and instead just assumed from the title or whatever that it wasn't pony-related. Running a group can be challenging, and so if the assumption was made that the deviation doesn't have anything to do with ponies, you could try replying to their message and say that the story is, in fact, about ponies, and request to send it in again.

Chances are that they didn't read the story (which is understandable, given that it's not practical to read through every literature deviation), and that they failed to see that the story was a crossover for whatever reason. At this stage, if this has only happened once, consider it bad luck and try asking the member of staff for more advanced feedback, or attempt to explain to them that the deviation is about ponies, and that it's a crossover. You may want to see if the group has some sort of rule against crossovers as well: it's been known to happen from time to time.
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BaIto Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Im a Furry Brony and i know its stupid but i shortned it to Frony *Despite it sounds like the name of a pony from 80's disco xD*
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SashikuChan Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012  Student Digital Artist
yea I was in the furry fandom before I became a brony too. But I see all of my fandoms as PG material. Honestly the biggest reason I join a fandom is because of art. If it's fun to draw and cute I'll probably draw it. I don't however, like mature art, so I tend to avoid it. :) I'm always always drawing my OCs as kids because I have some issues in RL that cause me to look like a kid. I look like I'm 15 and I'm 31. *i also tend to act young*.
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BB-K Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
#31 is all about the different universes. Technically ponies are animals too but what's important is people must be treated differently and avoid clashing into one. We got our own problems too like you said on the sexual stuff.
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KnoFear Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2012  Student Writer
One could also debate how much of a crossover is delving in between the pony world and the crossed-over world in question. For example, a fic which only bases its story on a similar setting/idea of Star Wars with ponies involved, versus a fic that simply replaces Star Wars characters with ponies and then essentially has them do the exact same things with a hint of personal ponified touch. I typically enjoy fics that lean towards the former category, as I find more originality keeps me entertained.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2012
Yeah, I agree with that. Using an existing world as a catalyst for an original story is usually more interesting than taking an existing story and replacing a few characters.
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MillenniumFalsehood Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks for answering my question, and I liked the answer! The reason I asked is that someone pointed out to me that sometimes crossovers can dilute the quality of the fan works, which I didn't agree with, so I decided to ask someone I thought was more level-headed. ;)

You're right about the decent following bit: I've had it here and on FiMfiction for about a month, and it already has close to 1,300 views with 17 favorites and 40 comments in that amount of time on the latter. FF isn't really a great site considering the overall quality of material compared to, say, Equestria Daily, but I do enjoy having my ego tickled every now and again. ;)
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2012
I've had my own dealings with FiMFiction: I had a story on Equestria Daily that I was encouraged to upload to FiMFiction, and although I did receive a decent amount of comments, I have to say that I'm not particularly fond of the set-up. As for crossovers, quality isn't necessarily a tangible thing; it's not as if writing a crossover about something will somehow damage the original product.
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MillenniumFalsehood Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
That was my argument as well.

And I'm ambivalent toward FimFiction. The automated selection system for the featured stories has led to more than one facepalm.
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lilsonic1355 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012  Student Artist
Im doing a crossover with mlp and dbz
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
I see.
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The-Bryce-Is-Right Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This is amazing! Keep doing it!
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
Thanks.
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Berlioz-II Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
I dislike labels. Though I don't mind if somebody does apply them to me, but I prefer not to be limited to the preconceived perceptions they convey. I much rather be called "fan of Friendship is Magic" rather than a "brony" the same way I don't really want to be called a Trekkie either despite being a Star Trek fan. It's like you outlined above, labels and tags of this sort easily narrow people's perception of your person by pigeonholing one into far too small lockers that hardly have room to include all the other stuff you may like. I'd personally hate to be defined by a simple little word that conveniently gives some people an excuse to call you as being one thing or another without at all attempting to see you as an actual person with interests possibly beyond that one single thing defined by a hefty one-note tag. Furries? Eh, they've yet to cause bother to me, so I don't care.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
The only thing I want to see labels on is food at the shop, amiright?

Also, y'know, I completely agree: I would prefer to be considered as a fan of "Friendship is Magic" than I would as a 'brony'. If you get called a 'brony' then it's expected that you involve yourself in all of the 'brony' pass-times, such as listening to the music and attending the conventions, or that you adhere to some of the 'brony' codes, even if stuff like 'love and tolerate' is fabricated horseshit. I don't want to be associated with those kinds of things, but if you're a 'brony' then it comes with the title. People generally have all sorts of interests; to call yourself 'this' and 'that' almost causes you to neglect other interests. You shouldn't be defined by a label in that way.
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Berlioz-II Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
And there's an even darker connotation to this in that labels have an unfortunate tendency to handicap a person's perception of another to a detrimental degree. I mean, if you look at how many non-pony fans react to bronies can reach from confusion to outright hostility without ever even considering that these people may actually have many interests outside of the whole pony fandom - interests that may even include some of the same stuff the naysayers enjoy - it just leads to unfair generalisations and misplaced idiocy. But whereas saying you're simply a fan of Friendship is Magic can at least dull the blade a bit, a "brony" carries with it so much preconceived bias that it immediately creates a tunnel vision for the non-fan. It's an unfortunate thing, but it happens all too often.

Personally I don't mind being called a brony as long as that is not carried out to mean my entire life revolves around pastel-coloured equines. Fact is, I enjoy Italian cinema of the 1940s-1970s, anime, sci-fi flicks, overtly pretentious pap, classic literature, classical music and film scores, and art nouveau architecture among other things. Ponies are just one part of all that. As long as people don't limit the perception of myself to a single, silly little name like "brony" then we won't have no problems.
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MillenniumFalsehood Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
This is something I pointed out to a troll once, and it actually seemed to have a changing effect on his demeanor.

Before I brought it up that we actually might have similar interests and that it was silly to try to tear a person down because of them, he was extremely antagonistic and flung curses left and right. But after I pointed out how dumb it was to criticize a person for their choices in entertainment he mellowed out and we departed the conversation on good terms. I like to think I might have influenced his perception for the better, but the point is that this is the problem with labels. They color perceptions, sometimes to a hurtful degree.
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Skoonie Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
I really like this round of questions! Also, what are some of your favorite MLP:FiM crossover fics that you've read?
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
I don't read fanfictions, I'm afraid. The only time I've checked them out are to give some of the more infamous ones a scan, so that my arguments against them can be more credible.
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doctordapples Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
*hate hate hate*
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
I've only read "Cupcakes", one clop-fic, a small passage of "Fallout Equestria" and then a bit of spell-checking for a few people and so on. I'm a bad man!
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firefanatic Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't declare myself a furry, but being a sci-fi/fantasy crazed person, I have a great interest in the concept. Besides, furries and bronies are really quite similar, since I have casually browsed both kinds of sites. Cute cuddly ponies or similarly cute anthropomorphic animals. What's not to like??? It only helps to prove that "love and tolerance" is not something we really follow, and merely use as a shield when I see both sides bashing each other brutally. It's embarrassing, and it shames me when these people do not take the time to see the other side, and see how similar each is. I could run off a list right now:

-both suffer from vocal minority
-both members are declared sexual deviants from being part of such fandoms by those outside of it
-both have rule 34 (shamefully)
-both make their own personae (Fursona/ponysona)
-both have very decent origins (science fiction delights/a great producer with a great idea for a great kid's show)
-both contain radicals
-both appreciate the cute and cuddly

It is simply hypocrisy to call a furry a "furfag", when we ourselves make our own orriginal characters from a theme, create our own fiction, draw our own art just like furries do.

This was a great piece of advice, and I hope it puts lots of false feelings to rest.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
Yeah, there are a lot of similarities: as I said, the two aren't mutually exclusive, which you've really built upon in your reply. It's an interesting one: for example, I wouldn't want to be called a furry, because I'm not; that said, I don't like to be called a brony either, because I feel that that's too strong of a word for my involvement in the fandom.
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Electroshock70 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
As is typical for me, I have comments to make on each question.

#31: I speak as one who has no immediate objection to general members of the furry fandom. Granted, I've had the unfortunate experience of witnessing "furries" Who were sexually deviant, but that's all vocal minority. In regards to any member of any fandom: if you prove yourself to be a decent person, I don't care what you like. Oooon to the next question!

#32: 100% agreement. I've never found myself into crossovers, but I can certainly see how they are enjoyable.

#33: I have posted a few submissions to MLP:FIM, and found it not worth my time. Their rules seem way too strict for me: "You must post your deviation in the right category, and you cannot post more than one of the same category in a week."
But now I'm just thrusting my opinion on "everypony". I'm sorry.

Very interesting, especially question 31! I kinda figured you'd respond that way.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
I can't say that I've met many furries who weren't into the sexual side of it (a whole bunch have said they aren't, and then after getting to know me better have revealed that they are), but I'm sure that some exist. As for MLP:FIM, they're the biggest pony group on DA, and so they have to take measures to avoid their boxes becoming extremely full incredibly quickly. It's unfortunate, but there's nothing that can be done - if they accepted everything the folders would be full within a week.
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chibilombax Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2012
^^ *is a furry and a brony if labels are ever needed so that first question made me happy*

I remember being shocked when some Bronies called me a FurFag. I was trying to comfort an upset fan. Saying "hey it's okay. I'm a furry I know what you're going through" fandom rejection wise. The person was happy to hear it. But a couple other people saw it and opened comment fire on me.

Seriously folks. Must it always come down to sex? Oh wait it's humans on the internet so yes -_-
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2012
I think that labels are reductive. I've seen you commenting on my Brony Advice entries for a while now. I don't identify you as 'furry' or 'brony'; I identify you as ~chibilombax, who just so happens to be a member of both of those fandoms. It sounds as if the bronies saw you as nothing more than the 'furry' label, which is the big problem that I have with labeling people; there's too much potential for attacking people based on a nondescript tag.
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chibilombax Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2012
I know labels are unimportant. But some people I feel to say them just so people just stop asking me questions. Sort of like if a friend will ask if I'm a brony. I tend to say okay just so they'd have the chance to be more comfortable. Since the majority of people use labels. I wish they didn't exist but what can you do?

Also I learned that just so long as you say the label casually like it's no big deal people won't freak out as badly lol. It's not normally my thing but sometimes it's better then just leaving someone guessing and possibly making worse judgmental thoughts.

If that made no sense I apologize lol. There's way more to a person then just labels. But eh some people just need them since they're so commonplace in the ways of thinking.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
I suppose that labels are useful in that they allow you to easily identify with someone else. I'm disappointed that bronies put you down for seemingly no reason.
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chibilombax Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
I was shocked but then I just started laughing mostly. Hypocrisy can be amusing sometimes. I still help Bronies out when I can if they're feeling isolated. I guess I'm following Pinkie Pie more and just having a laugh about it.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
Maybe you should collaborate with me on a Brony Advice one day, if you enjoy helping bronies? You could answer one of three questions. I'm already doing it as a collaboration with artists, but I don't mind collaborating with writers as well.
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chibilombax Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
I'm not as well spoken or neutral as you. I'd probably end up putting too much of my personal opinions into the matter and cussing lol
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