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#70) My friends have recently been dropping the show ["Friendship is Magic] and I feel kind of left out. Also, my boyfriend is a non-Brony and completely detests the show. I fear telling him that I like the show purely because he is unpredictable. I want to stay with him but I fear losing him.

Answer: First of all, let's approach the issue with your boyfriend. If he doesn't like the show that's fair enough, but he has no right to govern the kind of entertainment that you watch, and neither should you fear telling him such a trivial thing. Strong relationships are built on acceptance and mutual respect; he doesn't have to like the show, but he shouldn't be in any position to make you feel bad for being into it. You can have different interests to the person you're in a relationship with (in some cases those different interests can strengthen a relationship and broaden your own interests) and you should feel comfortable enough with this person to share the fact that you like a TV show.

"Friendship is Magic" is, after all, just a TV show. I don't care if your boyfriend is unpredictable – what right does he have to make you feel guilty about something utterly harmless? You should have the strength to tell him that you're into it, and, if you truly do fear what he might do because he's 'unpredictable', you might want to question why you're in a relationship with this person in the first place. What kind of a boyfriend would break up with you – based on you mentioning 'losing him' – because you like watching a show and engaging with a fandom based on it? It doesn't say much about his character, nor your relationship, if he'd break up with you over something so ridiculous.

With your friends, it's important to remember that people change and a lot of interests change with that. You can't expect people to linger in the same place for too long, and, just as with your boyfriend, you need to learn to be more independent. You don't necessarily need to have friends who are into the show in order to enjoy it; you should be confident enough in your own interests and opinions to like things regardless of whether other people like them. If your friends are drifting, you may benefit from trying to make some friends in the fandom. If you don't have many at the moment, it's not hard to make some – a lot of the DA brony community are kind and welcoming people.

Don't neglect your existing friends, though, and be sure to keep other interests yourself. If your friends are moving away from MLP, chances are they've found something else that they enjoy. You may find that you enjoy whatever that may be as well. Don't change for the sake of others, but don't be afraid to give a variety of things a shot. Your friends, if they're real friends, won't fall out with you just because you have this one tiny interest that differs from their own, and I'd like to think your boyfriend, if he's a half-decent person, wouldn't either.



#71) I have been reading My Little Pony fanfiction for a while now and some contains implicit or explicit depictions of sex. I don't do this as a way to get off or receive sexual stimulation, but rather value the quality of the writing and relationship-building. What is your position on the so-called 'clopfics' and other similar sensual fiction? Is it as bad as the outright r34 image porn, or have a legitimate place within the appropriate 'niches'?
p.s. What stories I am referring are 'the good stuff', i.e. well written and developed stories that contain sex, as compared to the short and shallow 'and then they fucked' shipping stories


Answer: Another Brony Advice, another porn-related question. Good job old Mexican stand-off Parasprite is up there at the top of the page to shoot any pony rustlers who get a little too horny. Yeehaw!

The gist of your comment seems to be that you don't masturbate to stories containing sex, but you do deem them to be useful tools in character-building. Sex is featured in all sorts of excellent films, TV shows and literature, and it's not exactly a bad thing. It can definitely make writing a lot more interesting and adds an element to a story that might not have been there without it. It's not always necessary – some TV shows take it too far for no real reason (A Game of Thrones?) - but it's not necessarily damaging. Now, you've asked a bunch of questions that each require a different sort of argument. Firstly, I'll engage with your question about it being as bad as rule 34 images of ponies.

Personally, I don't think that it is, and we can use a real-life example here to enforce why. When Fifty Shades of Grey was selling in the bucket-loads over the summer, I saw it being sold in supermarkets in front of everyone literally the moment you walked into the shop. I saw parents buying it for their young daughters, and I saw nothing in the way of a mature warning on the book or the stand that the book was being sold on. While I personally lamented how an erotic novel was being sold without any form of boundary, it did prove a point – people don't react the same way to erotic literature as they do to images. I imagine if a picture of a woman performing oral sex on a chap was put up in the shop, people would be far quicker to object.

There are surely a lot of reasons for why literature isn't deemed as damaging as images. I'd say that in terms of sheltering kids, most youngsters wouldn't bother reading a long bit of fanfiction, because they either wouldn't understand it or wouldn't have the patience for it. Literature requires a lot of imagination and the ability to visualise based on what you already know – if a seven year old read about oral sex, they probably wouldn't really be able to picture it, nor understand its application or purpose, and therefore wouldn't really think much of it.

With an image, however, the vision is put into your mind instantly. You don't have to draw on something in your head – it's already there, and it's much more immediate. Therefore, in terms of 'bad' as being gauged by how much damage it could cause, I'd suggest that images and art of the erotic nature are certainly capable of making a more obvious impression upon people, and would therefore, in your words, be worse.

Now, as for my opinion on clop-fics, I again follow the same sort of argument, although I would point out that just because one (images) is worse than the other (clop-fiction), doesn't in any way make either of them good – it just makes one the lesser of two evils. I have no interest in clop-fiction, but I would draw a line between mature fiction with sexual themes and clop. There's a deliberate style employed in the writing of erotic fiction that quite clearly tips the reader off about its content. An example of clop 'language' would be:

'He gripped his throbbing _____ and shoved it into her ____, making her scream in ____, _____ her arms about as he took deeper _____ into her _____ until he ____ in a shower of ____'

It's all very descriptive, largely unrealistic and overblown, and designed to throw as many adjectives in there as possible to describe what is essentially a fairly routine and basic series of actions. It's written in this way because a lot of these words are tags that arouse a reader interested in that sort of thing. Compare that to something more akin to mature fiction, and you'll find that, while sex can still be present, it isn't described in that over-the-top kind of way, and is usually a more subtle affair.

Clop, as it's collectively known now, isn't fine literature, and it isn't ever going to win an award for being edgy and intelligent – it's written largely by horny individuals who are catering for other horny individuals with the sole purpose of getting them to orgasm. Some may attempt to have detailed storylines, but when the over-stuffed adjectives and ridiculous euphemisms enter the mix, it sacrifices its general quality and prestige. Note that I'm not suggesting that sex in any way ruins a text; I'm merely pointing out that erotica written as erotica has a very common and easily-identified style (as emulated above) that doesn't really ignite the fires of literary genius.



#72) I love the fandom and consider myself a brony but I don't really like the show. I haven't seen many of the episodes [of "Friendship is Magic"] but I write a lot of fanfiction and draw pictures of the characters. Is this normal or do most bronies like the show?

Answer: I'd imagine that most bronies like the show. I'm not saying that they all worship the ground that it walks on and sit around in front of the TV just waiting for the next episode to come out, but it's fairly reasonable to assume that most bronies keep up-to-date with it, for a variety of reasons. Firstly, it allows them to keep track of what new characters are being introduced and how existing characters may be developing. Secondly, it saves them from falling behind when others will be discussing it around them. And thirdly, y'know, it's a pretty good show.

That said, while many like the show, I'm sure there are a lot who would consider the fandom to be the real thrill of "Friendship is Magic", and so you're undoubtedly not alone in saying that when it comes to the show VS. the fandom, you'd keep the fandom (not that both are mutually exclusive). I would say that you should make sure that in the fiction you write that you at least understand how the characters act in the show (one episode would be enough to give you a pretty decent glimpse into that) so that your fiction seems more realistic. For images, you can easily get away with seeing the characters on Google or DA and then drawing them – you don't have to watch the show to be able to draw characters from it, especially as the internet is full of references.

It's slightly unorthodox to not watch the show that the fandom is built around, but it's definitely not unheard of – I personally don't much care about Season 3 coming out or the future of the show, and instead involve myself on the outskirts of the fandom because it's informative and interesting. I don't claim to be a brony, but I definitely spend a lot of time investigating into the fandom; that includes familiarising myself with the show and its followers. For you, if you're having fun just being part of the fandom, then go ahead – you've surely made some good friends and enjoy your time as part of it, so the mere fact that you aren't a huge fan of the show shouldn't change that.
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EPsilon933 Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2013
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I saw parents buying it for their young daughters
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Should young girls seriously be reading 50 Shades? Isn't there a sex warning to be read somewhere on the back cover at least?
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sweetkat22 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012
#70
I told my boyfriend I like ponies, he didn't care much. He doesn't like ponies and never will, he even doesn't mind looking at the art I come across and watching me make the plushies. Boyfriends and friends should be supportive of what you do, sure deep down they will think your a bit strange but thats why my boyfriend loves me- I love him because of a lot of his strange qualities too.
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Electroshock70 Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome! Another interesting "Brony Advice"!

...And it's 3 comment time!
*fireworks!*

#70: This woman's relationship seems to be hanging by a thread, if the guy would dump her over a TV show...

Personally, I'd go for a relationship hanging by a thick, reinforced steel chord: Even if it's chinked, It can be repaired with plenty of time to spare.

I recommend that she get a more stable relationship, or at least, re-evaluate her current one. Can't hurt to re-evaluate.

#71: Opinion throwing. Take it as you will: I kinda detest ship-fics in general... Or even ones that try to put romance into the story. Why? 90% of the fan fictions I read, even some that I found good for a while, have failed to put any actual story advancement behind the relationship (oh look! They kissed! Now they will never see each other again!... What was the point?)... And that's pathetic if it's a ship-fic (The story starts right off with one confessing their love for the other. They get married and have kids. Now, for all intents and purposes, The story's done. Why continue?).

...Sorry. That question brought something to the surface. Anyway...

#72: What would a fandom-only brony be called (presuming more labels would be harmless)? ...Something to ponder...

I'm a definite brony for the show. No question about it. I look forward to season 3.

Out of curiosity, why are you not so enthusiastic ?

That's about it. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012
Fandom-only brony? Phony. Ohoho.

As for Season 3, it's not necessarily a lack of enthusiasm. Instead, I've just sort of drifted out of the pony 'thing', and prefer instead to treat the fandom and show as something to research and evaluate. As a social movement/experiment it's interesting to engage with, but as for the show itself, while it's definitely decent, there are plenty of other things that I prefer to watch. In addition, Season 2, for me, had a few too many episodes that I didn't get along with. You can see more on that in this review I wrote a while back: [link]
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Electroshock70 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I did see your season two review. It holds a lot of merit, but I still think MLP:FIM is better than 99% of the other garbage on TV. :D
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012
I wouldn't agree that most other shows on TV are garbage: Breaking Bad, Peep Show, Boardwalk Empire, A Game of Thrones, The New Normal, Homeland, The Walking Dead, Modern Family, Treme, Mad Men, Parks and Recreation, Community, The Office (US) and Girls are all really solid shows that are currently running.
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Electroshock70 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Opinions. We're allowed to have them. :)
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ender1200 Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2012
There is a differance between clop fic and ship fic containing sex as a device. I bring this up becouse the guy in question 72. seemed to aim his quesion toword the first and then asked about the second.
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ender1200 Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2012
Oops i meant question 71.
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Gariandos Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You know, as interesting as it sounds, I have also followed the fandom first, and then started watching the show a little afterwards. Consider it as testing the waters of the fandom, to give you a first hand feel of how it goes.
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Berlioz-II Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2012
71. Yeah, it shouldn't matter much if other people's attention is either commandeered by another interest or if they just simply loose interest in one show or another. It ultimately shouldn't have any effect on one's continued enjoyment of that show. And as to the boyfriend situation, as long as he's not a psycho who will get violent over even the most trivial of things, then you liking the show shouldn't matter. If it is somehow an insurmountable hurdle, then I'd say the relationship has bigger issues than MLP. After all, it's not as if one is forced to watch it, just the same as my mom and dad rarely tend to watch the same things and still get along just fine. A TV series is hardly an issue big enough to cause a relationship to fall apart and if it does, then you might just be better off without him.

72. You know I'd go so far as to say sex in literature is completely worthless. You can be friggin' F. Scott Fitzgerald and not make sex any more worthwhile in written form as the "horny individual" outlined above. I have yet to read a single book with a sex scene in it that has in any way improved the story or the character relationships in any conceivable way, and if anybody claims different, they're likely uncultured gits. What a graphic sex scene in any book inevitably does is simply stall the story to a grinding halt and bores the reader to tears. No development can ever be expected to come from something like that that couldn't already be defined by simple dialogue or psychological POV portraits. And if you need sex to be in the story, just set it up and drop it at that, as there's no reason to go into the tedious description of the sexual act itself. The setup is enough, and for further development of character inspired by the act can be deepened through post sex reflections.

Sex is ultimately only effective in visual form, and even then it will have to be in the form of a dramatic context, not just sex for the sake of sex (which is also the reason I detest porn movies for the simple fact that they ultimately offer too little actual stimulation to make it worth the while to play a TV voyeur - and not helped by usually skanky women and a naked Ron Jeremy that are easy turnoffs... at least to me). Ultimately sexual depictions in entertainment should only be reserved for heightened scenes of drama, like in Basic Instinct where the fear of Michael Douglas getting an icepick jammed into his chest after the act creates purpose for the famous "Pillow Talk" scene. Otherwise graphic depictions of sex are just pointless and exploitative, and when it comes to literature, a waste of pages... and my patience.

73. I'm really only interested in the series myself. Though I do look at art and even read some fics as I do with many other fandoms, I don't feel any real need to interact with the greater brony community beyond that. I came to watch the series before I even knew there were such people called "bronies" and ultimately I don't feel the need to dive any further into the community than that. I'll just watch the episodes, analyse the hell out of them, maybe draw an occasional picture, and then have some créme crackers with orange marmalade. It's enough for me.
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doctordapples Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2012
Yikes on number 72. Anyone who thinks sex scenes can add to a story is uncultured? Sex is an interaction like anything else, and I think its unfair to say that just because you've never read a book where it worked for you, then clearly it doesn't work for everyone and the whole practice is for nothing.
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Berlioz-II Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2012
Okay, I suppose I was just trying to be a bit overly sensationalist with the whole "uncultured" throw, but no matter how I try to look at it, reading paragraphs upon paragraphs of sexual description just is to me completely unnecessary when the same can be achieved in any other, more effective and subtle means. I guess it's because I'm much more concerned with character interaction, psychology and a more subtle approach to the expression of such emotion that I don't really see where two characters having sex is ever really necessary to read about. I mean, sure you can write schlock like "and then, in that wondrous moment of a climax, it was as if their minds were as one and their connection was undeniable" or something like that. But ultimately you could just write the whole thing off with "and then they had sex" and be in the same place without applying oodles of text to emphasise how ecstatic and "into" each other they are (both figuratively and literally) during the act.

But that's just my view on it and it certainly doesn't mean others shouldn't get satisfaction from this sort of stuff. I just don't see any real meaningful addition pure sex scenes have on the advancement of a story, no matter what the intention behind such a scene, and not have it descend into becoming something truly corny than anything else and just generally unnecessary. But that's just me. ;)
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regidar Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2012  Student Writer
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BB-K Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
#70, first, people have their own interest and normally should not always conflict. Here's my story in Asian perspective, I once had a girlfriend when she watch pure Chinese comedies and movies while I'm mostly English science documentaries. I broke up with her due to speech language not being the same with each other, and also she had a boyfriend before me which I didn't know, and that was 8 years ago. Overall, like the author writes it, it's the heart that counts, not some TV show that control someone's life. Not everything can be shared as well although there are some annoyances too which some real life cases do happen but it's all down to the boys themselves on how they manage their existing friends, I heard cases of boys getting their girls break up due to the boys love soccer so much, the girls neglected and then the boy just don't care as soccer is like a big interest to him than the girl, imagine if that happens after their wedding. You should be lucky that girls mostly have high expectations from their boyfriends on how they were treated, well, that's my theory in my Asian perspective as far as I know, see and experience before.

#71, mostly well said in the last paragraph. I talked about it in the previous Brony Advice. Porn is everywhere ever since the internet became a sensation and new technology to interact with, but then nothing can stop pornography. People do have their needs whenever they are in doubtful or problematic situations. I confess that I even google and see some human porn fics or stories but no point reading them. Yadda yadda yadda... Ok, I'll stop here, I don't want to go further into details. ;)

#72, I call myself just a fan because of the lack of good cartoons and I only watch them for the sake of it. Sure, once I love the show, I don't simply collect the merchandises for fun as I already got a jet plane collection and it's already dusty, so I don't take the title as a brony. Like the author said, but in view, I mostly watch it just to absorb knowledge on quality such as storylines, presentation, character development and such. And if I talk with friends on FIM, I mostly mention on what animation students would talk about, not the whole show in general very often unless I'm in a brony convention.
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BerryPAWNCH Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2012
Nice Q&A and eloquently articulate responses! As far as my personal reactions to these:

#70: Agreed, there are MUCH more important things involved in a meaningful relationship than a mutual appreciation of My Little Pony. And anyone who ditches you because they don't like your interests was never a friend at all, really.

#71: Clopfics never interested me for the most part, not really into that kind of thing. However, I like well-written, well-devloped clopfics that focus more on emotional intimacy rather than the act of gettin' the nasty on. I tend to skip the naughty bits though. :/

(Also, personally, cloppers don't disgust me at all. Whatever floats their boat. I'm actually kind of intrigued by the darker side of any community, since I'm interested in how the larger, more "normal" majority of the community reacts to their presence. :D )

#72: Never really watched a lot of the show after I watched the first few seasons. However, I actively browse pony art here and also surf a lot on FiMFiction and My Little Brony to see a lot of fan works, and I do a lot of MLP artwork, so you can count me in with the asker of this question. And yes I do agree wholeheartedly with the answer :3
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corwyndragonshard Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2012  Student Artist
after reading this i kinda want to keep up with brony advice
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K4nK4n Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2012
Good advice for question 70.

"True friends will stretch your vision, false ones will choke your dream."

And I don't understand how some folks can call themselves bronies yet dislike the show. Makes no sense since the term 'brony' itself is born from the fans' LOVE for the show.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2012
Guess they just like being part of a fandom in general. It seems odd, but I imagine it happens every now and then.
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NikalaTheUnicorn Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I don't know if I like MLP.
I'm more of a Unicon girl......
WAT DO I DOOOOOOO!
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DestinyDecade Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This is good as always. :)
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2012
Thanks, friend.
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paxtofettel Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2012
Senor Parasprite is ready to shoot any clop banditos on sight.

ARRIBA!!!
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2012
Estaba pensando sobreviviendo con mi sister en Equestria! Ella me dijo que es una vida buena alla, bien rica bien chevere, y voy! Puneta!
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paxtofettel Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2012
Aha, muy bien. Sin ningun error.

Pero, para clarificar: Sister es hermana.
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Nickystar101 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2012
Thank you so much for the help!
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2012
No problem. I hope it did some good.
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Nickystar101 Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2012
It did thank you.
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