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#94) I went to a brony meet-up and I thought it was pretty good fun until we went to Toys R Us. I was sceptical about a bunch of guys (no girls went to the meet) going to the little girl's section of the shop so I kept my distance and I'm glad I did – everyone there except for me became really creepily obsessive about the toys and it was embarrassing to be seen with them in the shop. After we left (I didn't buy anything and the girl on the till seemed really freaked out by us) I kind of felt awkward being seen with them and when they sang a song from the show really loudly at Pizza Hut I wanted to go home fast. What do you make of this?

Answer: There is always the potential for this problem when meeting up with strangers based on a common interest: will you be as into it as they are? The issue becomes slightly more complex when the common interest is My Little Pony, because it's the sort of interest that a lot of people aren't comfortable discussing in great detail outside of the internet, and for good reason. You may have come to terms with the show being pretty decent, but the average member of society who has no idea what My Little Pony is outside of being a toy product for little girls isn't going to understand.

The girl at the shop is probably one of those people. She probably knows what My Little Pony is in a broad sense, but likely has no idea about "Friendship is Magic" or the fandom, mainly because the fandom is almost entirely internet-based. Seeing one guy buying a toy from the range might raise eyebrows; seeing a legion of guys fawning over toys, most likely quoting the show and the like at the same time, would appear confusing and alienating in equal measure.

When you go to these meet-ups, you've made a conscious decision to take your internet interest and apply it to your life outside of the internet. While this can be productive, not everyone is happy to do that. Plenty of people are content to keep their internet shenanigans away from their real life, so that one doesn't infringe too much on the other. There's no shame in being ashamed of your interest in My Little Pony coming out – it doesn't make you a bad person, or any less of a fan, if you don't want to appear as some sort of radical toy-collecting goblin trawling through Toys R Us' kid's section looking for the next brushable hair pony that you just need to add to your shelf.

By the sounds of it, you enjoyed the first part of the meet-up, until you realised that these people perhaps didn't have the social awareness that you do. Either that, or they just don't care what people think of them, which is both something to be praised and something to be criticised. At the end of the day, there's no need to go to Pizza Hut singing about "Friendship is Magic" - even if the basis of the meet-up is My Little Pony, people should know that certain things aren't necessarily appropriate in public spaces.

That said, you did attend the meet-up, and so you must have expected that some people might be extreme cases. That everyone appeared to be an extreme case is bad luck. Personally, I would avoid any extensive interaction with people that are embarrassing you – there's a fine line between being proud of who you are and actively encouraging people to view you in a negative way. If you didn't have fun, don't attend again – you're clearly the kind of fan of the show who wants to keep a suitable distance from it in person; the sort of individual who is happy to meet with people based on a mutual interest, but who would like to explore other avenues of conversation outside of ponies.

A more pressing matter, though, is this: did they go for the fashion-style Rainbow Dash, or the Canterlot Wedding playset?



#95) Hello, I read somewhere about heretics - that it says that heretics are some kind of twisted religion reformists or something. And I was thinking about the Religious Bronies and stuff. Are Bronies  guilty of Heresy or something?

Answer: "Why do you answer stupid questions with this series, Alex?"

"I feel obliged to answer anything that gets sent my way, within reason."

"But why not just ignore the ones that give you cancer?"

"I guess I set up this series because I wanted to get to know exactly what bronies are thinking about, so that I can better understand their ways. Know your enemy, and all that."

"Even if it damages your own health in the process?"

"What can I say? I'm willing to go the extra mile. I would die for each and every one of these questions. Not to mention that the people asking these questions are clearly representative of parts of the fandom. Ignoring them would be to ignore aspects of the fandom, which would counter the very premise of this series in giving a voice to regular old brony thought processes."

"You're a mad-man, Alex! Don't be crazy: no one can keep engaging with these questions without losing the will to live."

"Don't you see, man?! I need to answer these questions! If I don't, who will? The people asking these questions are the future of this planet! They need to be educated!"

"Then, by all means, educate me: teach me about heresy."

"Heresy is a pretty antiquated crime/concept in most countries in the world. It was generally considered to be a nonconformist clash with Christianity, usually linked with a wider dissent towards an established hegemony and the status quo of a paternally-enforced religious dogma."

"...So are bronies guilty of committing it?"

"Bronies are going to hell regardless, so who cares?"



#96) I was just reading your column, and a question arose in my mind. I haven't been able to watch very many episodes of "Friendship is Magic"... In fact, I think the very last episode I was capable of watching was "Applebuck Season"...! I can't help but wonder, with my limited knowledge of our favorite ponies, does that mean that I shouldn't call myself a Brony?

Answer: I think the 'brony' thing is more complicated than it first appears. There are two main factors behind the label, in my mind: the part where the individual believes they are a brony, and the part where external viewers would consider you to be a brony. The latter is fairly easy to suss out – if you have a DeviantArt account full of ponies, both bronies and non-bronies will assume that you're a brony. Just having a pony avatar is enough to get most people thinking that you're a brony, which is one of many reasons why I have one myself: it serves as effective bait.

Now, with the former – calling yourself a brony – things get a bit more complicated. You admit that you've barely seen the TV show, and yet you have an awareness of the characters and the like. That may have come from watching the episodes that you have seen, or perhaps you gained that knowledge after seeing things on the internet. However you came to know about the characters and so on, the point remains that, consciously, you decide if you're a brony or not.

Just as you have the freedom to decide if you're any number of things, you have the choice to decide if the brony thing is something you want to be affiliated with. Nobody else really decides that. Pedantic individuals might try and invent some vacuous rules that arbitrarily judge how much of a brony you are, but, quite simply, fuck that – nobody has the authority to tell you that you are or aren't a part of something.

If you want to be a brony, and personally consider yourself to be one, then you are one. It's such an all-encompassing label now – an umbrella term that seems to snatch up a wide array of people, even those with a tertiary interest in the fandom – that there's little point in trying to categorise it. If you're happy to call yourself a brony, and thus take responsibility for what that title means by associating yourself with the fandom in general, then for all intents and purposes you are one. Nobody other than you has the authority to tell you if you are a brony or not.

Except for me, obviously.
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Riftress Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Upon reading the first question, this came to mind:[link]
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Ask-Spider-Blare Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Well, I'm proud to be a tombrony :heart:
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MillenniumFalsehood Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
#94 There's always such a thing as too much in any fandom, no matter how accepted it is socially.

As usual, I'll fall back on my own experience in talking about this by commenting on how Trekkies and Warsies (?) behave.

Trekkies are some strange people, for sure. I know several that you wouldn't take for a Star Trek fan, but get them talking about the series and you'll find a person who intimately loves the show and can probably answer any question you choose. Then there's the type who likes to dress up for conventions, who owns every toy ever released, who refuses to bathe and shower because it would cut into their Trek time, and who will vigorously defend their belief that the Original Series was the best to the death (even though it had, proportionately, just as many bad episodes as TNG). Those fans take the show way too far, in my opinion.

Star Wars fans don't have that big of a problem, but it exists. There are plenty of people who will defend the OT and hate on the prequels, to the point of actively bashing otherwise good art on dA simply by virtue of the fact that it's based on PT-era subjects. I don't really like the prequels as much as I used to, but I think it's pointless to be outright hateful of a series of movies simply because it failed to live up to your expectations. Constructive criticism is okay, but even that should have its limits.

Bronies have the same problem: many fans can be just a little too vocal about their fandom. I admit, there is a measure of fun in going out and defying social norms in harmless ways. I went to the MLP section with some friends on vacation, just for the experience of doing it, and out of sheer curiosity, and it was fun. But it probably won't be a normal thing. I'll probably get merchandise that appeals to me, but going crazy in the toy aisle is just something I wanted to try for the fun of it, and I did.

Now, loudly singing in public? Nuts. I love Star Wars' soundtrack as much as the next guy, but I won't sing the Main Title at the top of my lungs with fellow fans, unless we're alone and nobody can hear us. Same with MLP's music. I won't sing it in public unless I'm on my way to class, and even then I sing quietly so I don't offend people who have no idea why I like the music.

#95 Short answer? No.

They're no more "heretics" than people who love NCIS or Big Bang Theory. They're fans, but nowadays the church is relaxed toward this behavior, so long as it doesn't interfere with worship or changes your personality for the worse. And I can't see MLP changing people for the worse. It may bring out undesirable traits, but those were probably there in the first place.

#96 I've always operated under the idea that a brony is simply someone who likes My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

It really is that simple. There are some who try to be pedantic about it, but why would you want to be a rules lawyer over something so trivial? It's like trying to be the most important sorter at the cherry sorting line: pointless, and generally annoying to people with proper perspective.

Besides, you are in control of your own self-image. What do you think of yourself? If you don't see yourself as a brony, then you're not a brony. But if you think you're a brony, then wear the title. At the end of the day, it's just a word anyway.
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eddsworldbatboy1 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
i dont remember typing "guilty" in 95
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regidar Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Student Writer
Of course it would be you. :iconfacehoofplz:
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willyshlecnaught Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
bronies are going to hell.......wait what?!??!!?!?!?



oh shit
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regidar Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Writer
95 gave me cancer.
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hinoraito Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
#94 wow it's hard to be a man XD
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BB-K Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
#96 pretty much answered. As for me, I'm only considered as a fan since I don't own the merchandise neither attend any conventions. That's my personal criterias I did not meet. Overall, it's all depend on personal choice on how we want to call it. ;)
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Blue1710 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I personally think that to be considered a "brony", you need to know the Mane 6, the Mane Background 6 (Derpy, Doctor Hooves/Carrot Top, Lyra, Bonbon, Vinyl Scratch, Octavia), and a lot of pop culture references in the show.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
Sounds like you're a bit of: "[A] pedantic individual [who tries to] invent some vacuous rules that arbitrarily judge how much of a brony you are"
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Blue1710 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well... uh, maybe.
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BB-K Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ahh yes, it's all about the knowledge acquired, if let's say I've been taken to a trivia quiz, a brony should know, right?
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Blue1710 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, technically yes.
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BB-K Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, you can also say that on me based on how great animations I had made long time ago, especially the "Command & Conquer" ones.
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Blue1710 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
True.
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I've always been wary of meet-ups. I always get the feeling that a sum of the ones that do go to these tend to go out of their way to be as annoying as possible. But it's likely that they have no self-awareness in the slightest. Suppose that's what growing up in your bedroom/basement's like.

I like to consider myself a non-brony. The way I see my interest in all this pony phenomena is like a hobby. I only really think about this stuff outside of college work, right before I pass out. I suppose you can gauge yourself at how much of a 'brony' you are by your level of participation in the fandom. My only involvement is on this single deviant art account. The kinda stuff I draw, on this account, is a very small aspect of what I'm into. "Alright, we get it, you're trying to wiggle yourself out of calling yourself a brony."

And maybe I am... the label carries a huge negative connotation to anyone looking at bronies. The huge voice resonating from this crowd, which isn't shared by everyone obviously, is very annoying and hateful.

I just like the show and I draw two or tree pony animations. I am not a 'brony'. Though, you're welcome to judge otherwise...
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
I somewhat relate to your comment. I just consider myself a fan of the show. There are plenty of shows I like better than it.
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
*Coughs* Breaking Bad. What? I didn't Brian Cranston anything about that. Shut up.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
Your comment confuses me a bit (missing a word?) but yeah, Breaking Bad is excellent.
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I was joking. I don't know what action Brian Cranston would be (as a verb). Maybe it's the creation of meth? Or maybe it's being a father? Or maybe it's the desire to go in one direction, lest your head explodes.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
:iconwalterwhiteplz::iconsaysplz:"Say my name."
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Heisenberg... god damn it, I need the last season, now. NOW.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
:iconwalterjuniorplz::iconsaysplz:"W-Will I get to...eat breakfast?"
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Arcum89 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
Personally I think its very respectable of what you choose regardless of your reasons. A label is just that. It doesn't exactly define everyone though people will act like it does. Honestly people will label you what they want and I see a label as more of an outsider that gives it to others. I think we should use a different term other than "label" for what we describe ourselves. It just seems odd to me, regardless word terms are not really important in this kind of discussion.

Your reasons are your own just as much as your descriptions of yourself are your own. How others see you in the end wont matter what you call yourself so to me I question the point of really worrying about it. Its just how the social system works, people will get their own ideas as to who you are. Labels are just something you can shake off from someone's mind just by saying, "I'M NOT A/AN ___!" To me people are just people and individuals and labels really don't mean much of anything other than maybe saying of some common interest. I personally don't like grouping people into categories though because it just doesn't seem fair to people and makes you quick to judge others. I realize not everyone is like that though and it hurts when people wont even give you a chance to get to know you just because of an interest.

I've been to one meetup before and it was... interesting to say the least. Not something I will be doing again at least not for that kind of meetup that's for sure. The people that were there just weren't my kind of people. Most of the conversations were just about stuff that either flew way over my head or were topics I couldn't help but want to face palm to. I mostly went to it to just see if I could get over my social anxiety if at all just slightly. Mission accomplished I guess, but that crowed was just not what I was expecting at all. At least it was an interesting experience to say the least.

As for myself, sure I focus on pony stuff but I tend to look more into it as something to draw out and try to learn more about art with simpler forms. I help other people out with telling other newer artists the little I do know, and mostly just hang out in the pony scene because I feel comfortable with the people I do know slightly. I just find it easier all around to stick with the brony scene then try out with other groups of people. Am I a brony because of this? Probably. The idea of guilty by association and all that and most content I do produce is in fact pony related. Does this make me the stereotypical brony that people have mixed ideas about? I don't think so, I am just me even if I can't fully explain who I think I am either.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
What kind of things were said at that meet-up that made you face-palm?
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Arcum89 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
Unfortunately this was a while ago so I can't remember any specifics. Mostly though, the meetup was to play some variant of DnD being redone for ponies. Reading though the "rules" in itself should have been a major red flag that these people wouldn't be what I was hoping for, but gave it all the benefit of the doubt. I figured, I don't have many friends outside of the web and it would be nice to branch out and try to find new people to talk to in person even.

I guess in a way I was hoping for someone to be there to just have a good time and it would turn into something more relaxing. Personally I just don't feel comfortable doing role play games like that in a open public room (even if I haven't actually ever participated in one). It just seems awkward even if everyone is there for a similar thing. However due to the organization of the building basically anyone could overhear everything. I guess it was just too far out of my comfort zone.

As for the conversational topics a lot of it is the very basic "brony" memes, 20% cooler and the like. Along with that they would crack jokes about the community here and there with talk about bad OCs and stuff like that. I found myself ok with one or two people but when the group started to form it was becoming more and more uncomfortable with the discussions amongst each other. Me and the friends I brought were all kinda just sitting there listening the whole time. I kinda reverted back to my "be in the background and listen" kind of side. We ended up just kinda sitting there for a few hours listening to them play that game. They seemed to have fun which was good but it just felt awkward to me (I'm just glad I brought some stuff to draw with).
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Shoot, I wanted to add that I appreciated your insight, I am still somewhat new to all of this kinda stuff. Having a lot about bronies on Something Awful got to me.
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
You bring up a good point. I'm not really in control of the term I'm described as by my peers. It shouldn't affect me if I know that I'm not that. But at the same time, those names do cause problems among people. "I don't like the fact that you associate with this thing." Sure, a few people from this particular group... they aren't the greatest people, but it isn't everyone. Though, it's hard to get that message through when people don't want to listen. Suppose a lot of my anger is more directed at those particular people that have some really messed up ideals.

Hm... I see (about your meetup experience). I suppose you gathered some of that, at least. I don't think I can find a single 'brony' group in the area I'm at. I don't know if that means that not a lot of people here are into enough to form a group... or if that means that they're just not comfortable with it enough.

Maybe the term, even, "fan" is a bit much for some of us. We're not "Fanatical" about it, but we do appreciate the show and are entertained by it. Maybe... MLP-appreciater... that doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. Pony-enjoyer? Brony... I feel like I need an OC to call myself a brony, all of a sudden. A bro-pony.

Er, sorry stupid tangent.

I'm still trying to figure this all out, proper, in my head. I might not like the term, either. Not just the connotation, but the word itself.
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Arcum89 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
Even though this comic isn't exactly related I think it fits what you are talking about: [link]

The fact of the matter is people will always have bias towards your views on things, for some it will be positive for others negative. You might be able to "escape" one label but you will always have another label put on you somewhere else for something else. Its just how people are from my personal experience. It is what it is, but you are who you are. Honestly if someone is that quick to judge I dont exactly see them as someone I would want to talk to by that point anyway.
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yeah, people are rather quick to judge, even if it is a one-off thing that you do and it isn't really indicative of what you do or who you are. It's pretty shitty that things end up that way.

You bring up good points, again. In the end, all that really matters is you know at what point is too far, personally, before going too deep. Doesn't help that everyone outside throws stones at anyone associated with a group. Kinda like how some look at religious people. "These people believe this, and they did some terrible things! That must mean that everyone who believes that is exactly the same!" Course, I don't think many people take this bronydom to that point, but you know what I'm gettin' at?
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Arcum89 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
I get what you are saying, yeah. The funny thing is though if you think that not many people take the thought to that point then I question how valid of a concern it would be to be labeled a brony in the first place. The only community that I can think of that people doe think in a similar fashion to what you have stated would be the furry community, which is just as diverse if not more so than the brony community. Of course this more stressed with the major overlap you can find between the two fandoms if you really want to look into it.

People tend to try to avoid that connection like the plague which is fine if they want to do so. But again we go though the whole topic over again so really I don't see a point in worrying about it. If you really want to keep it on the down low just keep separate identity for yourself if you really feel it needs to be separate.

Personally I try to stick with the, be who you are kind of mentality so I just use my name everywhere to keep myself easily identifiable I don't feel that I really have a need to hide my interests from the rest of the internet community. Personal life? Well that's a different story though I am unsure as to why I worry about the difference.
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Student Digital Artist
They have been around longer. It's also another strange group I'm not too familiar with but am uncomfortable with. I can understand why they are sexually attracted to the kinda things they're attracted to. Makes sense, in some animalistic way. I don't think that makes sense.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing here. You're never going to see this name pop up anywhere else besides here. I got a lot of friends who are none to happy with bronies. And with the stuff I've seen and they've seen... it seems reasonable. The whole Derpy debacle being one of them. Death threats to people who sided with removing Derpy. Really hurts the name.

Definitely be who you are, just got to be wary that the internet is full of people who will immediately attack you because of one thing.

I suppose, what I'm trying to get at, is that certain people represent something. If those people show that they're not quite capable of being reasonable and be hypocrites, the name they carry so proudly gets sullied for them and everyone else.

As much as one would love to yell out the fact that they love ponies, they got to acknowledge that. So, the fear's set in. People lose their sanity over being insulted endlessly about one particular thing. High school is a huge catalyst for this. School yard rules following us everywhere. People have to be better than each other, for whatever reason. So they pick on the guy who likes guys, the smelly kid, the person who likes ponies... that sort of deal.

Suppose this all, again, brings back to the better of us being the clean up crew to say "Hey, not all these people are insane!" Damn it, there's all kinds of different things going on. So many variables that makes this issue difficult to properly figure out how to resolve.
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Arcum89 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
Personally I think you are generalizing everyone in the furry fandom to being everything about being sexual. From my experience the sexual group is the most vocal of all the subgroup of the furry fandom but oddly enough takes up a very small portion of the fandom as a whole. Due to this most people look at that fandom as being nothing but sexual intentions but it really couldnt be farther from the truth.

One thing you have to remember is that we as people tend to focus on the bad points of fandoms/people due to the fact that its just much more interesting to hear. What sounds more dramatic to you? "A furry is a bunch of people that like anthropomorphic art (both in visual and writing)," or " A bunch of creepy guys that sit in their basements looking at animal porn every day." The negative points always will seem like more interesting topics to talk about because how most people will react. The first one people would just be like, "oh ok" and the other would start to go into a discussion as to how disgusting it is and how wrong these people are for thinking in such a way which is such a contrary to the general public ideals.

As for the derpy thing... that was just pitiful. Really, debates are one thing but the supposed threat letters is just way over the top. I have not seen any real evidence of them but I wouldn't be surprised if they do exists. Think about it as far as religion goes, there are some fanatics that are so passionate about what they think that they are willing to go to such great lengths to tell people how to think because they don't agree with how they currently think of something. Its sad but true how it society can be at times, it really is.

I can understand the worry of the ridicule from others, trust me that's where my anxiety originates from. High school is especially bad but for the most part after that people become far more lenient depending on what kind of social groups you hang out with after that point. Really it depends on the people you are with, and to me if they aren't exactly willing to let you be you in fear of what others have done then I have to question how much I would want to talk to them. However that's me and I can understand if you don't share that kind of thought.

From what I see, social problems are the hardest things to fix and some of them are just impossible to do so since we all have our own thoughts and personal beliefs. The best we can do is just understand that we are all different and we all have our rights to think what we think and we should try to respect each others opinions. Individuality is both a major gift and a curse, the only way to really work with things like this though is just to figure out the truth about things rather than just assuming. Make your own decisions and not base everything off of what others say. You have eyes, ears and other sense, use them and make your own opinions based off your own information before starting to condemn anything I guess.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
Personally, I'm content to do all of my pony-related things online. I see no purpose in meeting up with people to reiterate what the internet already supplies.
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yeah, same here. I kinda prefer it this way. I suppose it's fair to say that it's the one way to get some people outside. Though, not to really new territory if its a group of people they already know.
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Dread555 Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
I've been meaning to go to a meetup.

It really is a shame that one has to be embarrassed about acting like an actual fan. There are no stores (besides maybe a hot topic) that advertise/sell MLP merchandise that is also a place for fans to congregate, like a comic book store, or a store that sells all sorts of "geek" stuff (such as this one store I used to live near that sold everything from tabletop sets, to mangas/anime movies, to card games, video games, and even sets up tables for people to come in and set up their games to play). Bronies simply don't have anything like that, they HAVE to go to the little girl's isle, and with that comes the social stigma.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
That's a good point. That said, the social stigma is somewhat deserved in that case: it's never really appropriate for a group of adult guys to hang around in the little girl's section of a shop. Thankfully, I believe that some geeky, comic shops (there's one in the UK called Forbidden Planet) are starting to sell pony merchandise alongside their D&D stuff and their Dr. Who figures, so I'm sure bronies will be able to hang out in places like that in future ;P
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Reaper-The-Creeper Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
So now I can grasp why you do what you do.

And I applaud you for it, for as you said, if not you then who?

Thank you for your great service to this fandom/community.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
That was some beautiful poetry right there.
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Reaper-The-Creeper Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I...not sure if serious.
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Gariandos Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You know, I've never done a Brony hangout before. Mostly because the Bronies I know tend to be out of state. xP
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Berlioz-II Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
I certainly would be rather embarrassed being around people going wide-eyed over a pony toy. I don't mind if you like them or want to buy them, but going completely nuts over them in public - particularly in a group - would make me feel very ill-at-ease to be associated with such a group. And that goes double for the singing. I don't sing in church during a funeral, so the odds of me ever belting out Pony songs would be highly unlikely... particularly during funerals. But I wouldn't mind getting me some of those vinyl figures of the ponies that have been coming out lately as I do have a small collection of PVC anime figures. I could see a Rarity fitting quite well alongside my Ryoko Asakura and Noriko Takaya figures.

And I was going to hell long before FiM came along to corrupt me into liking a franchise I hated with a passion before. But then again I don't much believe in hell or heaven, so guess the point is rather moot. I think I'll just rather spend my existence after death somewhere of my own choosing, thank you very much.

I believe I'm a twinkly-toed elf with 3/4 of leprechaun blood in me and a mermaid for a birth mother. I don't know what to call myself.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
I agree that collecting the toys in itself isn't a problem, especially those high-quality vinyl ones that you mentioned. If people want to collect them, that's their business. The problem, as you say, arises when people take that basic collector's ideal and apply it to the toys with a group mentality. You can expect collectors of anything to freak out after finding something that they're passionate about, but whereas you could forgive a collector of antique car models for getting a little too excited after finding a model they've been searching for for years, you can't quite say the same for the fascination with My Little Pony.
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TurkeySM Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
The brony label question has appeared quite a few times now. It's a bit disheartening to think that people have to worry about unofficial labels.
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Student Digital Artist
It carries a lot of baggage. Bronies are shunned upon in most internet circles... and in public. People tend to see them as a much louder and more annoying anime fans.
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TurkeySM Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I must be out of the loop then. The vast majority of the bronies I've met are swell people who aren't overly annoying and loud and that was at a convention filled with them.
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Weird, every vidcon I'd see of bronies was usually filled with loud, annoying guys who didn't seem all too familiar of the idea of self-awareness. What convention did you go to that had sane people?
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TurkeySM Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
The convention was your typical anime/manga con that just happened to have a part of it that was MLP themed. I suppose it's because they weren't there in huge numbers that the bronies weren't so bad. And while there were a few loud and pushy ones, they were really nice once they settled down a bit and just talked about what they liked in the show.
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Ah, I gotcha. That's cool, then.
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