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You remember the My Little Pony from the eighties, don't you? Even if you didn't grow up with it, you most likely know of its existence. Those pudgy plastic collectable figures and the nostalgically bad kid's TV show to accompany them were very much a product of the times, embodying the consumer Zeitgeist of the period. And now we look back on their evanescence with misty eyes, firmly believing that they deserved the 'young-girl' tag that went with the product.

It must largely be the visual appeal of the 2010 re-boot of the franchise, "Friendship is Magic", that has made a whole group of older individuals into fans. Those old, chubby ponies are now slender, beautifully animated characters with big, jewel-like eyes. And we must focus on the visual superiority of these ponies, and the popularity of "Friendship is Magic" with an older demographic, in order to understand why there has been such an influx in pornographic content regarding these equines.

Undoubtedly there was My Little Pony porn before the latest iteration of the show, although it would have been fairly niche and obscure, and most likely drawn with a degree of humour in mind. But when it comes to "Friendship is Magic", an entire counter-culture within the brony community has amassed with the intention of distributing pornographic material. And while no fandom is free of its porn, the relative acceptance of the smutty side of the community by others within it is difficult to stomach.

Naturally, bronies tend to be of an older demographic, and so many of them are in professional fields already. Some of these professionals – musicians; writers; artists – gel nicely with the fandom that the show has garnered and contribute to it in a productive way. And yet, on the flip-side, while many bronies are trying to sway media attention away from negative stereotypes to deeming the bronies as a respectable community, a fair portion are tarnishing this bold move through the active creation of erotica.

The major explanation for this abnormal behaviour is likely a lack of decent sexual stimulation in the real world. In an independent survey conducted on one-hundred bronies between the ages of 16-19 who regard themselves as 'cloppers' or 'clop-artists', only three mentioned that they were in a relationship at the time that the study was taken; eighty-four had never been in a relationship before. And it is fair to assume that the sexual repression that comes from being attracted to the idea of masturbating over a cartoon pony is a sign that the individuals who engage in this sort of behaviour are, by and large, doing so because they aren't receiving sexual release in another, more natural form.

While it's a bold move to imply that people who are 'into' pony-porn are generally your typical basement-dwelling introverts, it's difficult to construct a stable argument in support of "Friendship is Magic" porn. 'Creative freedom', may be used, or the excuse that 'other fandoms do it as well'. Both are certainly points that could be argued with a degree of credibility, but retorts such as, 'it's effectively bestiality'; 'it's abnormal, deviant behaviour' and 'just because other fandoms do it doesn't make it right' sound more informed and reasonable.

It's no great surprise that My Little Pony is intended for little girls. Therefore, to attach the sexual implications to the show that many pony-erotica miscreants do is to detract from the common values of the product. Hasbro, the company behind the My Little Pony brand, clearly do not wish for porn to be made of their product; recent take-downs of a certain plush toy prove that they view such content as damaging to their intellectual property. And, of course, this is entirely reasonable of them to suggest: having pornographic content made of their product, which is marketed towards children, potentially risks damaging their company name and puts them in a unfortunate position.

It's selfish, honestly, to bite the hand that feeds the fandom by ignoring Hasbro's stance: while creative content such as music videos or fan-games are being accepted by Hasbro, proving that they're viewing the brony splinter-group as a good thing, erotica serves to dispute this reputable relationship. Despite the fact that Hasbro – the company ultimately responsible for the show - dislike it, and that pornography should be mediated and kept at a minimum due to its graphic nature and destructive quality, people audaciously ignore these simple, entirely acceptable requests and continue to make it anyway.

Naturally, it's abnormal and abhorrent behaviour to be attracted to cartoon ponies, especially when they are representative of a children's show, and so reasoning with the types of people who find arousal in such things is always going to be a difficult task. Obviously, it's the typical horny teenager, who comprises a good amount of the brony community, that will predominantly try and bring sex into every equation known to man, and so it's not difficult to see why they would try and sexualise characters that they create a close bond with.

However, "Friendship is Magic" draws a fine line between friendship and lust. It's acceptable to relate to characters in a kid's show if they're well-written. But to imagine having relationships with them – one brony observed appears to be convinced that Fluttershy is his girlfriend – is perverse and pathetic behaviour that indicates the loneliness that many of these people feel. And while they may argue that their attraction doesn't hurt anyone, the simple fact of the matter is that, with My Little Pony in particular, it does.

The aforementioned corporate backing behind My Little Pony leaves the show and the brony fandom in a precarious position. Given the unprecedented nature of the brony community, a lot of journalistic eyes are on the people involved to see what it is that they like about the show. Saying that it's competently written, voice-acted and animated is a credible and understandable reason, and few journalists worth their salt would be able to criticise a fandom based on these assertions. However, when individuals explain that they are attracted to the characters in the show, images of weird, sexually-neglected people come to mind, and it does genuinely ruin the collective external opinion on the fandom.

Not only this, but professional individuals who associate with the fandom receive the negative backlash that is targeted towards the pornographic side. It's difficult to feel proud of a community who don't seem to object in any major way to the ruinous presence of porn of a little kid's show. Frequently, people who create this sort of content are viewed as minor deities; popularity often seems to be closely correlated with willingness to draw porn, which signifies the degradation of society at large.

It's possible when part of a fandom to forget where it all began: in this case, My Little Pony, the toy-range and TV show marketed for kids. Therefore, it's in the best interest of the community to shy away from the sort of content that is going to embarrass the group as a whole. It's hardly being a team-player when you're letting the majority down because you just had to draw a picture of a pony having sex. As, purportedly, responsible adults, it's up to bronies to show that they can respectably like a children's show without being a weird, sexual deviant at the same time. By accepting and actively inviting pornographic content of the My Little Pony name, it merely reaffirms everything that media sources negatively say about the fandom.

It is somewhat humorous to see certain individuals who are self-certified 'cloppers' complaining when major news outlets insult them, because many of the complaints raised about bronies can be seen as true when depraved content exists. Despite it often being hyperbole and generalisation, evidence does certainly exist to support many of the negative things that are said about the community in regards to its peddling of erotica.

Ultimately, the people who are 'into' this kind of stuff will continue to draw arousal from it, and so attempting to censor the content is a largely pointless affair. My Little Pony porn, however, does come across as distasteful, unnecessary and insulting to the brand that it represents. People can make porn of anything that they like, but whether they should is an entirely different story. At the very least, people could stop being so damn proud of what they do; charging people to buy pornographic Flash games of My Little Pony, for example, is so hilariously backwards that it's hard to know who to feel more sorry for: the person sitting there making the games or the suckers actually spending money on them. There's even a My Little Pony porn website that requires a monthly subscription payment of $25. It's enough to make any rational person despair at the creepiness of it all.

"Friendship is Magic" is a good show, but due to the close relationship between Hasbro, The Hub, the staff members and the brony community, people should show some respect to the property and demonstrate at least a modicum of decency. Horny teenagers are obviously going through a phase with their weird attraction to cartoon ponies; hopefully puberty will kick that out of them. If it doesn't, then you may as well start lamenting now for the upcoming generation of people who think that this sort of behaviour is acceptable.
An article written for a local media outlet.

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Typical Brony Leaving the Fandom I'm leaving the pony fandom;
I'm done with all the gossiping and the bitching,
The back-stabbing and the gender-switching
Between people who pretend they're something
They're not. [5]

I'm getting out of the fandom;
I'm sick of its porn and its gore,
Its darker side and its desire for more
To join the herd of egotistical pricks
Like them. [10]

I'm tired of this fandom;
I'm bored by endless proverbs and morals,
By the puffed-up glands of internet quarrels
Of who loves and tolerates in greater amounts
And wins. [15]

I've had it with this fandom;
I'm hateful towards drama and exaggeration,
Towards those who react to every situat
There's a Hole in my Lyra (Down Below) "Written from the Venerable Earl... to the concerned party,

It has come to my attention that with grave discourse many have seemingly adopted a negative stance towards the recent pony plush-toy range with the custom-cut vagina. I contend that such a plush has every right to exist and that those negatively disposed towards it are failing to see the multitudinous benefits to its existence. Firstly, and with the greatest of importance, may I add, I strongly argue that this plush-toy is no less acceptable than any other erotic image or work of fiction designed with the primary objective of helping a brony to reach a satisfying climax. In fact, I
An Admonition to the Reluctant Clopper By drawing out his fleshy tool,
He half-invites to be taken for a fool,
When reluctance fails to help him repent,
Nor escape from his practice of personal torment.
By crying loud for help to avoid this lewdness, [5]
He opts for the route of faithful shrewdness;
To give up clopping, he says with sincerity,
Would help return to a previous prosperity.
His life oft-regarded for such a precious thing,
Now amorously enslaved by the hopeless sting [10]
At the tip of his member when he surfs for smut,
And suffocates himself for sexual glut.
Resolutions on the cusp of every New Year
Fail to draw him from his state of despair:
(Fo
The Great Fandom Debate I was on the internet in Springtime in a very secluded corner when I heard an obsessive and an abstainer holding a great debate. Their argument was fierce, passionate, and vehement, sometimes sotto voce, sometimes loud; and each of them swelled with rage against the other and let out all their anger, and said the very worst they could think of about the other's character, and especially they argued strongly against each other's passion.

The abstainer began the argument in the corner of a forum and perched on a high pedestal---there was plenty of distance around it--- behind an impenetrable thick wall. He was all the happier because of the wa
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AvarianGuy Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014
I was writing a comment on your newest article, and then I found this.

You are one of the sanest members of the fandom I've met. Thank you.
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Taitou1 Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014
Honestly makes me think about my fandom as a whole. Never even really understood that stuff, except for mentions in fanfics on fimfiction.net. I'll remain neutral, just so nopony gets ticked at me for leaning to either side. Good article, though.
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MoonriseUnicorn Featured By Owner May 11, 2014  Professional General Artist
I just now saw this essay, and there's one thing I really have to strongly disagree with you on.
Both are certainly points that could be argued with a degree of credibility, but retorts such as, 'it's effectively bestiality'; 'it's abnormal, deviant behaviour' and 'just because other fandoms do it doesn't make it right' sound more informed and reasonable.

The ponies are sapient, intelligent beings who just happen to look different than us. So in a hypothetical world where ponies and humans coexisted, calling it bestiality would be extremely offensive to ponies. Because that would imply that they are just simple animals.

In such a hypothetical world, I think inter-species romantic relationships would simply be the next logical step after interacial relationships. Yes, it would take a long time for most people to accept those types of relationships. But it also took a long time for people to accept inter-racial relationships and homosexual relationships. And of course, some people still don't. However, I would have no problem at all with a consensual relationships between an adult human and an adult pony. They are both consenting, sapient, intelligent beings. And I don't see how it's any different than inter-racial relationships or homosexual relationships.
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Champion137 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014
1)Deviant behaviour? We are on DA.

2)Never thought about that.... The fact that they'd be offended if people considered clopping bestiality.
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MoonriseUnicorn Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Professional General Artist
I think they'd be offended by the fact that they are being used as mere sex objects. Although I would have no problem with inter-species relationships between a consenting pony and a consenting human, I would have a problem with ponies being reduced to nothing more than sex objects for people to jerk off to. But I have the same problem when guys do that to human females too.
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tod309 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014

I agree with you brother. The amount of sexualized pony fan art and fanfiction and pony porn out there is disturbing, especially since it's a show made for kids. At least with cartoons aimed at older or mature audiences it makes some sense for fans to want to make sexualized or pornographic art of those characters since they may already be sexualized in the show itself. But it just makes no sense in the MLP fandom.   

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0rang3App3aL Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2013
I've seen people argue that cloppers can't help what they're sexually attracted to, and that discriminating against them is like discriminating against homosexuality. What do you think about that?
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013
It's a fairly flawed comparison. 
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Champion137 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014
That argument validates pedophilia in theory, so I'm gonna have to agree to disagree here.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014
What are you talking about?
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OddFox17 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2013  Student Writer
What I don't get is why these people find candy-colored talking horses sexually attractive. I know that the characters were designed to be "cute" and all, with their grapefruit-sized eyes and blunt muzzles , but how does one go from "aww.." to "I wanna piece of that"?

Personally, I blame the Internet.
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basic-insanity Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
sadly, i don't know and probably never will. its just another thing that people like. why do people like getting pee'd on? or tied up? i truly have no answer. i cant even answer as to why I like it. pretty much everything turns me on to a certain degree.
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CoronetV8 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Seriously, is there another reason for grown up kids to like mlp?
Kids need to get laid.
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windslicer1000 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013
"... 'it's effectively bestiality'; 'it's abnormal, deviant behaviour' and 'just because other fandoms do it doesn't make it right' sound more informed and reasonable. "
The above makes me think this is satire, but laughing I am not.
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CoronetV8 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
(autistic) deviant behaviors belong to deviantart.
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weedgoku1488 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
It's so refreshing to find opinions like this on deviantart. Thanks for writing these.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
You're welcome, bud.
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Buraq-Tuplar Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Why is this article in the satire folder?
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
The folder is called 'Satire and Sensibility'.

Guess which one this belongs in?
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Buraq-Tuplar Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
Forgive my misunderstanding. I thought it was merely a pun, not an announcement of the actual content.

Very sensible, I will give you that. We need more sensible people in our world.
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I agree with a lot of this but when it comes down to it. One word pokemon. Second word. Hentai. People look down upon cloppers yet do not so much upon pokefans. Where as none of this makes either right or wrong. People have rights in choice and some peoples choices are looked upon better or worse. I also have to say the world is full of ignorance. Dont blame cloppers fully for the non cloppers being targeted but blame humanity for stupidly being sterotypical. For one factor baseball fans are not targeted for any percentage being like this or that but then theres other things like rap fans are automatically looked upon as druggies and criminals by the ignorant sterotype. So yes without cloppers there wouldnt be a stereotype but at the same time it is the ignorant that take advantage of it.
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Demonbane775 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Thing I love most is that this makes sense. While I'm not a Clopper or a Clop-artist, I think I can understand some of the motivations of people that do do those things... A lot like you said, people that openly like a TV show make for young girls are usually very sexually repressed.

But there's also one other thing I think would have been worth mentioning. These are my personal beliefs on the subject, and I'm probably wrong, but here's how I see it. The characters, while not human, are HUMANESQUE, as they have personalities, can talk, can read, ect., you get the picture, and combining that with the fact that the company purpously made them very relatable characters, makes it very easy for individuals like you mentioned to become very emotionally close to these characters, which then develops- well, you get the picture.

Also, the very subject matter of the show makes it easy for these kinds of boundaries to be crossed. Close friendship can be easily mistaken for- well, that kind of thing.

I said my two cents. feel free to have target practice with it.
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Brejburn Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
The new episode hasn't even aired yet and there's already rule 34 of the new character...
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
Naturally.
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Maggie-X-Awesomeness Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I love you and your sane-ness
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012
Thanks, friend.
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Kayleeya778 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012  Hobbyist
very good article, considering the content, data and vocabulary
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JimRaynorHyperion Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
i love ya reviews and other stuff you and i agree with them but not with this one.

its true the fandom is on good terms with hasbro but that doesn't give them the right to stop ppl from selling pony porn art or mech. the plush was on sale in ebay and how will a little kid see or find this? since its a background pony that little girls won't know about, plus safe search should be on in the first place.

furry comm. sells art or porn plushies of sonic, pokemon and other cartoon characters and company that owns those characters never take those down. sure, mlp is a cartoon for little girls but you got to remember, its a toy first than a cartoon.

horny teenagers? i met r34 artist that are in their 20's or 30's and many are married or have gf/bf or single. not all r34 artist are teenagers.

i hate how everyone keeps saying we're damaging the fandom. we're part of the fandom. we're not screaming our heads off to get ppl to notice us. we're in our side doing what we love. the only time we scream is when news media, makes us look bad like we're fat ppl living at home with our folks and fapping to the show everyday. we have a life too.

then there the bronies who wants us gone because we make them look bad. i say to them "deal with it" no matter how hard you want us gone, we're never leaving. i also hate how EqD is allowing gore now like mov series but when one of the admin posted tara why video of tara voice work from chain lolipop game with twilight flash she did, they was taking down in seconds. it didn't even had any porn in it.

like you said "people should show some respect" that should go on both sides. not one.

:V but still love ya x3
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CallMeDoc Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2012
Actually, it's pretty damaging in a way, when no rational discussion on the show can go without getting disrupted by over-the-top porn bullshit, on some sites.

While older people do make that sort of content, they often act in a very immature manner, getting overly defensive about their "rights" and resorting to "deal with it", instead of keeping a proper discretion. Not everyone leaves porn magazines on the main hall table. For everyone's sake, keeping things separate on a degree would do a lot of good.
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doctordapples Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2012
so its better if the artists are grown adults who ACT like horny teenagers?
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JimRaynorHyperion Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
making porn isn't acting like a horny teenager. someone can draw porn and not act like a teenagers. why are you saying this? did you meet a lot of r34 teenage artist? or you just believe all r34 artist are too immature because they draw porn? its like saying drawing fan art from a kid show is too immature. here i thought you was very open minded about stuff. i was wrong.
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doctordapples Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2012
I'm actually extremely familiar with a lot of R34 brony artists. Some of my closest friends in the fandom are R34 artists. I will say that the people who are most obsessed with sex are typically those who have the least experience with it.
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cameronisadisaster Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
It certainly doesn't help that there is a pony-related sub-rule of the Internet, and it happens to be a sub-rule of Rule 34. Rule 34.2: If it exists, there will be a pony of it. No exceptions.
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ender1200 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012
a. You do understend that the "rules of the internet" is just an overly used joke, right?
b. Rule numbers are ussualy based on vacancies last time i have seen a "there is pony of that" it was numberd rule 86 or something like that. Oh and rule 52 is "every tow franchises will cross over".
c. Are you really connecting "people like to ponifie characters" with Rule 34? really?
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cameronisadisaster Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
No to c, it's just that it doesn't help the case of people thinking every MLP fan that isn't the target audience is a clopper.
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Sonicdh Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Professional Artist
Cudpug,

While, on a personal level, I, too, can't understand the attraction to equines, I feel that there is nothing "unacceptable" about creating pornographic art about characters from the show. Nor do I believe it's damaging to the fandom. (I use "art" as an umbrella term to cover writings, animations, and images.)

Here's a question: Is pornographic representations of anthropomorphized (humanized) ponies any more/less "acceptable"? Further, How far must an artist go to distance their drawings from the show before it's no longer "damaging"? (Removal of cutie marks, for example). Does making the relationship to the show less obvious make the art less "dangerous" or is it the intent behind the art that is what causes this harm?


Mind you, I am of the firm belief that no art/thought/speech is dangerous enough to warrant censure.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2012
The way I rationalise it is that porn doesn't belong as part of the My Little Pony universe. Of course it's damaging to the fandom: various media outlets acknowledge the porn and mock the fandom for it. If it wasn't there, it would give them less ammunition to use against the fandom. My Little Pony is a kid's show/product that just so happens to have an adult following; said following should like it for the same humble reasons that kids do, not bend and twist it to suit perverse, mature desires. If you hired a babysitter to look after your seven year old, you wouldn't expect that babysitter to use the family computer to look up porn while that child is under your care. In a similar setting, it's not fair to abuse a children's product when kid's can see it. Bronies occupy the same environment of interest as kids do: it's common decency to keep it kid-friendly when the product in question is kid-friendly.

I have a young relative who has seen My Little Pony porn despite filters, simply because she Googled 'Applejack and Big Macintosh'. Yes, it is a problem, and I don't care about 'artistic freedom' when it comes to MLP. MLP isn't like other products: it has an enormous market for kids that means that they will be exposed to this stuff. Bronies should respect that and keep the art safe. And, should they not care about all of that and wish to make porn anyway, they shouldn't be revered as great parts of the fandom, or be allowed to charge money for it. It's the pride that a lot of these people show and the callousness that's really disgusting. Furthermore, it's disrespectful to ignore Hasbro's wishes - clearly they are against porn - by drawing it. It's damaging the moment you take the MLP name and sexualise it in an extreme way.
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YoungAngelStocking Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I've never minded cloppers; I've accidentally stumbled across their works before and then I shrug and say 'Well. That was awkward. Moving on'

I do like reading the romances, if there isn't any sex, smut or kink involved.

But the porn's I have read are actually pretty tasteful; at least as tasteful as pony porn can be.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I enjoy them, I'm just saying most of the ones I've read/seen aren't as bad as people could make them.
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paxtofettel Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012
Very great argument.

I will admit though, I really do not have a problem with Rule 34. I mean, if it's something disturbing like rape, pedophillia, incest, futa, etc., I try to avoid it. But, if it's done tastefully (at least, as tastefully as pony porn can be), I generally don't mind it. I've read some really good fanfics that featured sex (though, the erotic part is never the main focus in the story).

However, I most certainly agree that many of those cloppers and their vocal nature is ruining the fandom. Personally, I feel that anyone who is into that stuff should really keep to themselves.

Another great article, my good man.
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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2012
Sex and porn aren't the same thing. You can have a story that has a sex scene, or implied sex, without the graphic details that would make it constitute as erotica.
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Daniel-SG Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think for most cloppers, it's less they're attracted to to cartoon ponies, and more so they're attracted to the characters.

I think people are way too harsh on them (or some of them, like fanfic writers who like writing "adult romance stories" involving these characters.) Honestly, as long as it's not like Vore, Futa, or Scat and it keeps out younger fans sight, I don't see a massive problem.

Course, that's just my opinion. :iconrarityshrugplz:
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loftwinglover Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
why do people think this is aceptable? this,this porn and pictures!! are they CRAZY??!! one time i even saw a video on youtube showing a stuffed plush of cadence,and the top comment said "but is there a hole in the flank?" it it had 87 likes??!
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ZerotoHero108 Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I agree. I may be a Brony and my OC, Storm Trifecta, klike Rainbow Dash, but I don't write porn about them (i'm not like that). I leave the fandom at safe fandom, not the lewd type. and i'm not ashamed to say that i'm 15 and like the show either.
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zafeyry Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Pony porn is creepy O_o
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FenixTheFox93 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I do wish bronies that are into the R34 aspect of the fandom would pipe down about it in public. I mean, yeah, sparing details, I read clop here and there, I do have a number of R34 pics saved, and my OC Cobalt Blaze has a huge crush on Twilight Sparkle (headcanon will be headcanon). I'm not particularly ashamed, partly because I separate the porn from the canon for the sake of preserving the show for me, but I also don't bring up the dirty stuff when I'm out and about, or around my friends that don't want to hear it, brony friends included.

Personally, I don't care what cloppers do behind a closed door so long as it's not something horribly illegal, and I don't let the sexual minority of the community get me down about the show or the rest of the fandom, but the vocal ones really should be less, well, vocal about it, for the sake of the fandom and its image. Though, I do agree with Willis96 as well, making a huge deal about cloppers and R34 does just as much to put them in the spotlight and hurt the fandom's image as the too-open-about-it cloppers do by themselves, maybe more than they do, even.
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WillisNinety-Six Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2012  Hobbyist
While I do believe that this article is well written, I do have a few things to nit-pick about.

With the whole "Fluttershy girlfriend" thing? Big whoop. That happens in EVERY fandom/community. For example, there will be a few anime fans who have fictional girlfriends/boyfriends who they claim are real, and there are some beliebers who constantly daydream and are over-obsessive about being with Justin. I'm not trying to give them a bad name, I'm just saying, the stuff that happens in this fandom most likey already exists in other fandoms.

And besides, cloppers and R34 is pretty much in a minority, when you rant about them (even to a local media outlet!) you're just giving them popularity AND a bad name for the fandom.
I don't get it. I see people complaining about R34 a lot, but it's like the complainers of R34 give it more popularity than the cloppers & R34 fans themself. At least that's how I see it. The main reason I found out about R34 was because of tons and tons of people complaining about it, not by finding it on google images.

I don't see why people have to take a minor issue in the fandom and make it look like it's a big problem. It's really not THAT big of an issue, I go to a lot of websites and I barely see ANY R34/mature content at all! (maybe that's just me, I'm not sure) :/

Although, I do have to agree with some parts of this:
We should at least TRY to keep the adult content to a minimum (due to there being some kids in the fandom) but, spreading its existence and complaining about it will only make kids curious of to what R34 is, which isn't that good (again, this is how I discovered R34) :/

Another thing I agree with is the Lyra plushie being taken down, people would have probably mistaken that as an official Hasbro product, which would have no doubt been very bad for the company's image. So yeah, the plushie being taken down was pretty much for the best.

In case of "tl;dr" In short, I do think that mature content in the fandom should be kept at a minimum, ( I have seen some R34 art and it wasn't that fun to look at ). However, when you talk about this stuff (even to a media outlet) you just spread its popularity around, and it doesn't help if you're trying to give the fandom a good image. :/
If cloppers want to clop, let them, it's none of my concern and it shouldn't be anyone elses either. Trying to talk them out of it won't do any good.

This is just my opinion anyways.
But I'm glad the author was insightful about this and provided good reasons for his/her argument . I don't see a lot of that on the internet :/
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GrieverPon-3 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2012  Student General Artist
I see says the blind man. We've been slapping them on the wrist for too long, we need to deal with that side of the world. Of course, there will always be those socially awkward weirdos who retreat back into there lair and stroke there meat wand to the weirdest things imaginable. Side note, which is the weirdest fetteish, Technical rape monsters or cartoon horses getting screwed by humans.

I thought I knew all of it, but the $25 subscription to a website like that is just disturbing. Humanity has been falling for a while but dear some holy deity, I didn't think it would be this bad. One of the leaders I think is this dude named Pokehidden, I listened to that Queensteens and saw a name called "Pokehidden."

I was curious and looked it up. As the saying goes, curiosity killed the cat.
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sunkissin Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ALL OF MY YES.
This is amazing, and just had to be said. People will ask, "what does it have to do with me, I say let them do what they like!", and yeah that's fair enough. But when they feel the need to draw it and POST IT ON THE INTERNET WHERE EVERYONE CAN SEE IT.. then we have a problem. And no one try to feed me that "don't like, don't look" bullshit, that's the most pussy-ass excuse ever come up with when you try to defend your precious bestiality. Seriously. It IS damaging to the fandom as a whole, and it's no reason so many people are creeped out/disgusted by it. But the fact that so many OTHER FANS are creeped out/disgusted by it, it gives me little hope for humanity. Just a little.

"It's hardly being a team-player when you're letting the majority down because you just had to draw a picture of a pony having sex."
^ That should be a stamp. Because it's probably one of the truest parts of your statement. No one HAS to draw this shit. But of course the internet is full of sickos who are just desperate to show off their fetish to the rest of the poor world. I honestly don't see the point. They could at LEAST keep their shit off dA. -_-

All in all, I ABSOLUTELY agree with you. Everything you listed (extremely professionally too might I add) is exactly why pony porn bothers me so much. I just don't think it can be justified. It's NOT okay to be into/drawing such things -- not if you spread it all over the internet and act bloody PROUD of it. Yeah, thanks for making the entire fanbase look bad. We really appreciate it.

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Cuddlepug Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012
Your passion and enthusiasm is encouraging. You obviously feel very strongly about the issue. I agree that the excuse of, "If you don't like it, don't look at it" is a problem, as it's easy enough to stumble upon it inadvertently. I object to porn existing based on a show/toy line designed for kids who will be searching the internet for it and have every chance of running into porn, even with safe-search on.

As for that line, feel free to make it into a stamp if you're artistically inclined. Thanks for the positive comment.
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sunkissin Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I do, very much so. In my eyes, pony porn is NOT okay, no matter how perverts want to justify it. It disgusts me when they act so proud of it, and call people who oppose to it, "trolls" or "babies". And the "love and tolerance" excuse is getting insanely old and annoying.. no, we do NOT have to tolerate your desire to draw and fap off to sweet, adorable animated horses from a show intended for little girls. The show's essence of innocence and charm is continuing to be tainted and brutally ripped apart by that side of the fandom, and it's a real shame. It almost causes me to hate and feel embarrassed for being a part of it, and that's why seeing things like this make me feel more comfortable about it. Because I know there are people out there who oppose it as much as I do, and you have provided so many fantastic arguments.

And yes, that is so very true. And people have just as much of a right to complain about such distasteful things than the people who post positive comments. We don't want that shit on the front page of dA, and we REALLY do NOT want it on Google Images. But as you said, some things can easily get past safe-search, and that's when we have a real problem. People just don't seem to care about children anymore.

Oh, I'd love to - if I WAS artistically inclined. xD Either way, you are more than welcome. Continue fighting the good fight, this is a brilliant read and will hopefully change the minds of some people who choose to turn an ignorant blind eye to it. It IS a real problem, and even though we can't obliterate all porn (rule 34 still sadly exists no matter what you do), at least we can try and fight and stand up for what's right. People like you are what keep me - and a lot of other people holding faith for the fandom. :) Keep up the good work!
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